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Postby Hollywood2 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Taynted_Fayth wrote:92 citi FM has a YouTube clip of that Canada/Mexico brawl, its fricken awesome. I bet baseballs popularity would increase if there were more fights like that but usually seems when benches clear its to hold ppl back not allow a few 4 on 1 curb stompings lol

That video is everywhere!

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Before this game, Japan had two extra base hits in the tournament. Japan's leadoff batter hit a home run. Netherlands' starting pitcher Robbie Cordemans is a junk ball pitcher with good control. He walked the second batter. Then things got worse for the Dutch. Japan pounded out 6 home runs and scored in every inning before the game was called for the mercy rule.

Goldeye Yurendell deCaster played and went 1-for-2 for Netherlands.

Japan is 2-0 this round and will play in the pool final, and are assured a place in the final four. Netherlands and Cuba (both 1-1 this round) will play to determine Japan's opponent.

I must ask: Why do they have a playoff in round 2 between the 2-0 team and the 2-1 team, and they don't have a playoff in round 1 between two 2-1 teams? It seems to me that Netherlands and Korea should have played a tie-breaker in round 1 (they were both 2-1 along with Taiwan, the latter having the best +/-).

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Postby Hollywood2 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:38 pm

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Both sides were 0-2 coming into the game with no chance at a 2nd round berth. However, if the WBC sticks to its guns and forces 4th place teams to re-qualify in 2017, this one was basically a qualifier. The Spaniards (I believe that there was a Spaniard somewhere on the team) jumped off to a 3-0 lead in the 1st inning. The big blow was Goldeye Barbero Canizares' 2-run HR. (This may the first time that two Goldeyes had hits on the same day at the WBC.) A 6-run 4th inning for Venezuela turned the game around.

So Venezuela misses a chance to be WBC champion. They will have to console themselves with beauty pageant dominance.
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This was a brilliant contest which Canada led for 7 innings. In the end, the bullpen could not hold the lead, giving up 7 runs in the 8th and 9th innings. Canada took a 2-0 lead in the 1st inning when Michael Saunders hit a 2-run homer. He and Justin Morneau were the key offensive cogs for TC. Saunders was 8-for-11 with 3 2B and a HR. Morneau was 7-for-11 with 3 2B. Chris Robinson did a great job at catcher. Lots of hits and played tough. Too bad Jimmy Van Ostrand only had one at-bat. He normally plays 1st base and with two former MVPs ahead of you on the depth chart it is tough to get into the lineup.

A key moment was in the bottom of the 8th. The Yanks had just scored 3 runs to take a 5-3 lead. With one out and the bases loaded he pulled a grounder into right field but US 2nd baseman Brandon Phillips made a diving stab to his left and got Loewen at 1st. One run scored but that's where the rally ended. Had it gone through it was a tie game, likely runners at 1st and 3rd, and still only one gone.

So the USA and Italy go 2-1 (USA gets 1st for having beaten Italy) and Canada and Mexico go 1-2 (Canada gets 3rd for having beaten Mexico).
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Postby Stretch » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:37 am

Hollywood2 wrote:Canada gets 3rd for having beaten Mexico.

In more ways than one. :lol:
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Postby Hollywood2 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:36 am

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It seemed that was well on their way to a post-game celebratory cigar. But a 6-4 lead heading into the bottom of the 8th was not a safe lead for the Cuban bullpen.

This was an elimination game, which means Cuba is gone. In a way, that is too bad because I would like to see Cuba play the USA. On the other hand, Netherlands following up a World Cup win with a place in the WBC final four can only be good for baseball. Goldeye Yurendell deCaster went 1-for-3 and is now hitting .400 in the tournament. There is no doubt that Netherlands is doing well. But I have this feeling that those 86 mph pitchers will eventually be throwing batting practice as they move on.

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Frankly, I don't know why they played this game. Japan beat Taiwan and Netherlands, so they should be first at 2-0. Netherlands beat Cuba twice and lost to Japan once, so they should be second at 2-1.

Japan scored 8 runs in the 2nd inning. They will play the 2nd place team from the Miami pool in one semi-final, while the Kingdom will face the 1st place team.

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Italia scored 4 runs in the top of the 1st. But then the DR slowly picked away to get the win, and Italy hardly did a thing. They may have turned into a pumpkin.



The Yanks had no problem with this one. IMO, Puerto Rico is not as strong as Canada or Mexico. I was also watching the Jets v Leafs game, and my viewing tipped toward hockey once the USA built up a lead. PR will play Italy in an elimination game, whilst USA will have the DR for a spot in the final 4.


Wed, Mar 13, 6:00 PM Italy @ Puerto Rico (3)
Thu, Mar 14, 6:00 PM Dominican Rep. @ United States (4)
Fri, Mar 15, 6:00 PM Game 3 Winner @ Game 4 Loser (5)
Sat, Mar 16, 12:00 PM Game 5 Winner @ Game 4 Winner
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Postby Hollywood2 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:21 pm


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The WBC went to one game a day, which I don't like, for game 2 of this pool. Italy scored 3 runs in the 5th inning but could not hold the lead. PR racked up 3 runs in the bottom of the 8th to take the lead. Yad Molina paced PR going 3-for-4. He has really been their leader. A veteran catcher makes a pitching staff better.

Personally, I don't think that Puerto Rico has looked all that good. Venezuela was sub-par this tournament and I think Italia has turned back into a pumpkin.

Nevertheless, good for Italy. They had to play 5 tough teams and went 2-3. All losses were respectable enough. Unfortunately, since most of their lineup was garlic-loving Americans I doubt that this result will do much for Italian baseball.




These have been the most disappointing WBC teams in past tournaments. So this guaranteed final four berth was a big prize. The DR has been especially disappointing, and they seldom have a representative national team in other international tournaments. So even though they rank probably no worse than 3rd on paper, they are only 13th in the IBAF official rankings.

Craig Kimbrel was the losing pitcher. He came in with the game tied 1-1 in the 9th inning, and gave up 2 runs on 3 hits. So after a great pitchers' duel, he really got shelled.

Now 3/4 of the final four are determined. I would like to see a DR v Japan game at some point. The 4th berth will go to either Puerto Rico or the USA.


Fri, Mar 15, 6:00 PM Puerto Rico @ United States Loser
Sat, Mar 16, 12:00 PM PR/USA Winner @ Dominican Republic
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Postby Hollywood2 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:04 pm




So the US of A will be spectators yet again when the big games are played. This is the third WBC and they have played just one away game. Puerto Rico's 3-run outburst in the 6th inning gave them a 4-0 lead. The Yanks rallied late and once even left the bases loaded.

I was impressed with Phillips-Rollins up the middle. Phillips' defensive play was a key factor in their advancing past Canada in the 1st round. They each had 2 hits in the game.




I don't know why they play these seeding games, but they do. The winner got a day off and a semi-final game with Netherlands.


Sun, Mar 17, 8:00 PM CDT Puerto Rico @ Japan
Mon, Mar 18, 8:00 PM CDT Netherlands @ Dominican Republic
Tue, Mar 19, 7:00 PM CDT Final



Japan was lucky. In the first round they went 2-1 and advanced with Korea who were 3-0. In the second round those two were paired with Mexico and USA. Korea went 3-0 yet again and the rest went 1-2. USA was eliminated when they lost their final round-robin to Mexico by a 2-1 score.

The Latino elite were all grouped together on the opposite side of the draw. In the first round Puerto Rico (3-0) and Cuba (2-1) came from one pool and Dominican Republic (3-0) and Venezuela (2-1) came from the other. In the second round all four teams started at 1-1, thus setting up a pair of de facto quarter-finals. The Dominicans beat Venezuela 2-1 and Cuba beat Puerto Rico 4-3, allowing both winners to advance.

Then they did something weird. In the final four, the semi-final opponents were drawn from the same qualifying pools. So Japan (3-3) beat Korea (6-0) and Cuba (4-2) beat Dominican Republic (5-1) in the semi-finals. Japan beat Cuba in the final.


The WBC honchos wanted to do something about those 3-way ties. So they went double-knockout, with the 2-0 team having to play the 2-1 team in a group final.

On one side of the draw, Korea (3-1) advanced with Japan (2-1) and Cuba (3-0) advanced with Mexico (2-2). In the second round Japan (3-1) advanced with Korea (2-1) in a round where Japan shutout Cuba twice.

On the other side, Venezuela (3-1) advanced with USA (2-1) and Puerto Rico (3-0) advanced with Netherlands (2-2), who defeated the Dominicans twice and were in turn twice defeated by Puerto Rico. Ironic it is that those three teams are advancing to the 2013 final four. In the second round, Venezuela beat everybody once, going 3-0, and the USA advanced with a 2-2 record.

In the semi-finals Korea crushed Venezuela 10-2 and Japan slapped around the Yanks 9-4. Japan then won the rubber match against Korea 5-3 in the final. The two had split four games earlier in the tournament.

Here are the 2006-2009 standings:
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                         2006     2009
Rk    Team               W   L    W   L
1/1   Japan              5   3    7   2
3/2   South Korea        6   1    6   3
2/6   Cuba               5   3    4   2
5/5   Puerto Rico        4   2    4   2
7/3   Venezuela          3   3    6   2
8/4   United States      3   3    4   4
4/9   Dominican Republic 5   2    1   2
6/8   Mexico             3   3    2   4
11/7  Netherlands        1   2    2   4
10/10 Italy              1   2    1   2
9/13  Canada             2   1    0   2
13/12 Australia          0   3    1   2
12/14 Chinese Taipei     1   2    0   2
15/11 China              0   3    1   2
14/15 Panama             0   3    0   2
16/16 South Africa       0   3    0   2
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Postby Hollywood2 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:47 am


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Alex Rios' 2-run HR gave Puerto Rico a 3-0 lead which the iffy PR bullpen was then able to save. This run to the final by PR reminds me of Japan in 2006. PR's record was only 4-3 heading into the semi-finals. In 2006 Japan was only 3-3. Japan had only 6 hits on the night and chased bad pitches all night long. Yad Molina is a good catcher but they had to lay off those pitches.

PR already have two losses to the DR. Could they meet for a 3rd time in the tournament?


Mon, Mar 18, 8:00 PM CDT Netherlands @ Dominican Republic
Tue, Mar 19, 7:00 PM CDT Final
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